WASHINGTON - TelAve -- Daryl Guberman, a 40-year quality assurance expert and Boeing shareholder, has uncovered damning evidence that federal agencies are enabling Boeing's safety failures by sitting on the board of a private accreditor ANSI–ANAB that oversees the very certifications Boeing Commercial claims to follow. For over 22 years, Boeing Commercial has refused to be certified to the AS9100 aerospace quality standard, even while demanding that all its suppliers meet it. After Guberman exposed these April & July 2002 documents during the April 17, 2024, DHS Subcommittee meeting. Boeing gave up Onsight supplier audits for 22 years! https://www.newstribune.com/photos/2024/apr/18/3749044/

Now, top Boeing Commercial leadership has admitted the truth—and it confirms EVERYTHING Guberman has warned about for years.

What Happened?

In June 2024, Elizabeth Lund, Vice President of Quality for Boeing, told Reuters:
"Boeing is willing and prepared to obtain an AS9100 certification—an internationally recognized aerospace standard."

She also claimed that Boeing Commercial  has been "compliant" with AS9100 for many years—even though they have never been officially certified. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-brief-european-regulators-new-production-plans-after-737-max-panel-2024-06-27/

This statement was not a correction. It was a corporate admission that Boeing has operated for decades using a compliance illusion—a system where they enforce AS9100 on suppliers, yet exempt themselves by self-declaring compliance with no third-party verification. This dangerous workaround is fully enabled by their partnership with ANSI–ANAB.

"Compliant" Doesn't Mean Safe—It Means Untouchable

"Being 'compliant' without being certified is like a restaurant that claims it follows the health code but refuses inspections," says Guberman.

"Boeing has created a fantasy world where they write the rules, dodge them, and then enforce them on everyone else."

Boeing Commercial self-declared compliance is not true certification. It lacks third-party audits, objectivity, and accountability—yet ANSI–ANAB permits it, and federal regulators look the other way.

Question 1: Is Compliance the Same as Certification?

NO! Compliance means you say you follow the rules.
Certification means a trusted third party proves you follow the rules
Boeing has only claimed compliance—not earned certification.
Meanwhile, Boeing:

• 911 BOEING Commercial   TO LAY OFF 20,000 – 30,000 EMPLOYEES
• APRIL 2002 NADCAP National Aerospace and Defense Contractors Accreditation Program  CERTIFICATION FOR SPECIAL PROCESSES LIKE FLIGHT CRITICAL WELDING, HEAT TREATMENT, NDT, ETC Supplier notification basically required supplier to send in certification & parts and only if need arises with Boeing come audit.
• Publishes rules (like their July 2002 Supplier Bulletin) requiring suppliers to have AS9100 certification from ANSI–ANAB. Supplier notification basically required supplier to send in certification & parts and only if need be with Boeing come audit.
• April & July 2002 supplier notifications were taken off the Boeing supplier portal January 2025
• BOEING Sits on ANSI–ANAB's management committee and webpage, helping decide who gets certified (grants, suspends and withdraws certification -this was taken off ANSI-ANAB webpage August 2024
• ANSI-took over complete control of ANAB in 2018
• ANSI ANAB Was a founding member of International Accreditation Forum IAF Inc., which controls global accreditation from Delaware, USA.
• IAF also tied to International Laboratory Accreditation Cooperation ILAC Inc. in Australia, IAF's sister group—ANSI–ANAB are underwriters of IAF/ILAC
• IAF-ILAC are associations of accreditation bodies national and international equivalent in accreditation to ANSI-ANAB
• Global Accreditation Cooperation GLOBAC IS NEWLY FOUNDED ORGANIZATION THAT IS PART OF IAF-ILAC

If Boeing Commercial  gets certified now—by ANSI–ANAB or one of its partners—is that fair or impartial?

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That's like letting the judge in your trial also be your business partner.

Question 2: What About the Past 22 Years?

Since 2002, Boeing Commercial used its own internal documentation instead of using the official AS9100 system.
Without third-party checks, their quality system could be:

• Outdated
• Incomplete
• Unfairly shielded from accountability

This may have led to production problems, safety issues, or worse.
And while they required stricter standards from their suppliers, they didn't follow them themselves.

Imagine if:

A company told tire makers they must pass a tough international test. But the car company never takes the test itself. Then that same company helps run the board that approves those tests. And finally, they hand-pick the group that will someday test them.
Would you trust that car on the highway?
That's what Boeing Commercial   has done with aircraft certification.
Boeing's actions raise serious concerns about safety, honesty, and oversight.
Being "compliant" is not the same as being "certified"—especially when lives are on the line.
ANSI–ANAB: Federal Agencies on the Board, Getting Paid on the Side
ANSI (American National Standards Institute) and its accreditation arm ANAB oversee certifications for thousands of companies across aerospace, defense, manufacturing, and healthcare. But they're not neutral—they are under the influence of federal agencies that have joined their board while doing business with them.

Guberman's investigation revealed:

• Department of Homeland Security (DHS): Had Phil Mattson on ANSI–ANAB's board while still a federal employee. He received $262,000 from ANSI–ANAB, in addition to his federal salary.
• DHS also illegally promoted ANSI–ANAB on its official government website between 2017–2018, falsely giving the impression that it was an approved federal entity.
• Department of Commerce – NIST: Gordon Gillerman, another federal employee, was also a board member and received $120,000 from ANSI–ANAB.
• FDA and DOJ: Both also sit on the ANSI–ANAB board, while simultaneously being customers of the organization—a massive conflict of interest.

Federal Law Violations—Plain and Simple

18 U.S. Code § 209

"An officer or employee of the United States shall not receive any salary… from any source other than the Government of the United States."

Phil Mattson (DHS) and Gordon Gillerman(NIST) violated this federal law by accepting money from ANSI–ANAB while collecting taxpayer-funded salaries.
Further, DHS's website advertising ANSI–ANAB likely violated:

5 CFR § 2635.702

"An employee shall not use his public office for the endorsement of any product, service, or enterprise."

Boeing's Long-Term Deception—No Certification Since 2002

Boeing Commercial issued a supplier bulletin in July 2002 demanding that all its suppliers be AS9100-certified—yet Boeing itself has not held certification since that time.
In April 2002, Boeing adopted an "audit-by-mail" policy, telling suppliers to simply send in their certificates send in your parts, instead of undergoing third-party, in-person audits by Boeing. ANSI–ANAB approved this process—effectively rubber-stamping self-certification.
"Imagine students mailing in their own test scores, grading themselves, and then claiming a diploma," said Guberman. "That's how Boeing Commercial   plays this game—enabled by ANSI–ANAB, and protected by our own government."

Global Risk: ANSI–ANAB's Foreign Ties and Compromised Oversight

ANSI–ANAB helped create the International Accreditation Forum (IAF), incorporated in Delaware their . From 2015-2021, the IAF was led by Xiao Jianhua involved with our quality since 1994 (He was also the Chief Executive of the China National Accreditation Services Beijing- He certified the ill-prepared Wuhan Bio Level-4 Laboratory (Highest handling of contagions) , He is a Chinese national legally bound by China's National Intelligence Law, Article 7, which mandates that citizens report all data to the Chinese Communist Party.

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Despite this, ANSI–ANAB has continued international affiliations with both the IAF and ILAC (International Laboratory Accreditation Cooperation), based in Australia. These groups push "international equivalence", which opens U.S. quality and safety systems to foreign influence—while DHS, DOJ, FDA, and NIST remain on ANSI–ANAB's board.
The Heart of the Problem: Board Members, Customers, and Check Recipients
The DOJ, FDA, DHS, and Department of Commerce are all:

• Sitting on ANSI–ANAB's board,
• Buying services from ANSI–ANAB, and in some cases,
• Getting paid by ANSI–ANAB.

This triple-role makes independent oversight impossible. It's like having the judge, jury, and defendant in the same room—sharing profits.

Guberman's Demands for Accountability
"We've got a jet on fire, federal agencies in bed with private companies, and the public being lied to about certification. This is no longer a policy failure—it's a national security threat," says Guberman.

Daryl Guberman demands:

• A full DOJ and Congressional investigation into ANSI–ANAB and its federal board members.(How can the DOJ investigate when they sit on ANSI-ANAB board as a member and customer?!)
• Enforcement of 18 U.S. Code § 209 against Phil Mattson and Gordon Gillerman.
• Immediate disclosure and public posting of Boeing's AS9100 non-certification status.
• A ban on self-certification practices across the aerospace and defense sectors.
• Immediate removal of all federal agencies from ANSI–ANAB's governance structure.

Third-party accreditation under ANSI–ANAB, as promoted on their website and ISO.org, is fraudulent at best.

ANSI–ANAB board members like Boeing Commercial , Lockheed Martin, Pfizer, and Johnson & Johnson oversee and use some of the 7  accreditation bodies that are members of ANSI-ANAB they influence, breaching global impartiality standards.

This structure blatantly violates ISO/IEC 17011, which requires unbiased governance over registrars and certification bodies.

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